Gilad Atzmon : a radical thinker
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Following his conference in Geneva on March 20th, L’Armurerie met Gilad Atzmon and asked him some questions.
(Dieudonne, Anti Semitism, Jewishness, David Duke, Israel Shahak and more')
N : One of my first questions has already found an answer during the conference actually!
GA : Don't worry about that, try again, I may have changed my mind (laughs).
N : Regarding the Jewish intelligentsia’s campaign against Dieudonné in France, it is not clear what they try to achieve. Their behavior is not exactly reasonable.
GA : You have read my book so you understand that what you may consider as ‘reason’ has very little to do with Jewish reasoning.
While stressful reaction to trauma is generally called post-traumatic stress disorder, in the case of the Jews, we are dealing with PRE-traumatic stress. Jews are in many cases tormented by a fantasy of terror. And it is the fantasy of terror that shapes their actions. So they invent a fantasy of an Iranian nuclear threat, and this fantasy of terror would shape their actions and eventually may lead towards a disaster for themselves and the rest of us. For instance, considering the Iranians are in a state of security alert, and for a good reason, they may even misinterpret a move in Israeli airspace that would lead to a reaction !
Interestingly enough, and it is the first time I say it publicly, when you watch “Schindler’s list’, the Jewish crowd on the screen discusses issues to do with gas chambers. They say, «Yes, we've heard that there are gas chambers» and, as viewers, we are also terrified by the concept. Then, when the Jews are marched into the showers, we are fully anticipating a mass slaughter and this is obviously the dramatic peak of the movie. But this is in fact the product of a pre-traumatic stress. It's a fantasy! Because as we are about to learn very soon, there is no gas, we are dealing with showers, simply water pouring out of them.
N: You mean, in the movie? (Laughs)
GA : Yes, I'm talking about the movie. But this is a classical case, and it's incredible that Spielberg decided to bring this aspect of Jewish psyche into cinematic life. Spieberg is a very interesting character, do you remember the movie E.T., it is basically the story of a Jew who went out of the ghetto and got into trouble, but eventually made friends with the Goyim. Nevertheless, he still wants to go home, back to the ghetto ! But for the time being he's with all these goyim, and they love him, which is something that never happened to Spielberg himself (laughs).
N : Usually, not in Israel, of course, but in Europe, they are trying to manipulate us, as you say, «by way of deception » (Mossad’s motto): they act as French people, just like any other citizen. However, in the case of Dieudonné, they actually reveal their strategy and political power.
GA : I have great respect for Dieudonné, and I think this is mutual.
In fact, his story was the emblem of Jewish identity politics. They tell you again and again, «the personal is political», so you say « oh fine, I'm black so my politics will be black then, that's fine, so I'm going to be concerned with black issues, slavery and discrimination, and I'm going to care little about your thing, i.e, the Shoa, this is your thing.».
But, apparently, the personal is political only as long as you don't undermine or eclipse Jewish suffering. Because Jewish suffering is the primary topic and the Holocaust is the new religion -- an awful religion indeed.
Because Christianity, for instance, is about spreading goodness, Islam is about peace («Salaam») and about finding yourself. The holocaust religion, however, is about vengeance. There is a very important Israeli philosopher – the late Yeshayahu Leibowitz -- who said that Jews believe in many things. They believe in Buddha, in Judaism, you have got Jews for this, Jews for that, Jews for Palestinians, but all of them believe in the Holocaust. Holocaust is the new Jewish religion, and this is their problem. But when they ask you, French people, to make the Holocaust your new religion, this is interfering with your Western values system.
